200 grain at 2960 fps and 3892 ft-lbs. I’ve even nicknamed it “Thor,” because I love carrying and shooting it so much. With the number of bullets available that dwarf the list of those for the .35 Whelen, and the fact that I can send 200 grain .338 only 200 fps slower than the same bullet in a .338 Win. It’s flat shooting and with a 180-grain or 200-grain bullet it packs a punch. I use the 200 grain FTX bullet, it has been very effective in both kills. Not earth shattering figures, but nearly identical to 30/06 numbers and it makes a .338 diameter hole; what's not to like? Learn more! .375 H&HHunters do like to bring much bigger rounds to Alaska and Canada in their search for that wall-hanger Bullwinkle. All times are GMT-9. Register Take your moose hunt to the next level! This round performs best as loaded from the factory where proprietary powders are used to make it acheive its higher velocities and pressures. Send a 200- to 250-grain A-Frame, AccuBond or Nosler Partition from this round and you’ve got powerful moose medicine. I’ve enjoyed carrying both iron-sights lever-actions, and trust my life to 405-grain Remington Core-Lokt, and 430-grain Buffalo Bore cartridges. For your security, My reloads produce 2600 fps with 200 grain Hornady SP and 2450+ with 225 Hornady SP from a 22 inch barrel. The other rifle, even though much heavier, clocked me so much I couldn’t get it shipped back to the manufacturer quickly enough. When the Alaska gold rush picked up in earnest with the Klondike in 1899, those who had the money and wisdom brought their Winchester 1886s and Marlin 1895s: they shot a much better round for putting moose on the table than the .30-30 and .38-55, and such, of the time. One-hundred-and-eighty AccuBond and Bear Claws are my choice, while other Alaskans prefer to send 200 grains. "I do not deal in hypotheticals. The contents of the Alaska Outdoors Supersite The .338 Fed is shooting almost right alongside the 338-06, which has a well developed reputation on big game. performance out to 400 yards, without the recoil of magnum rounds. There will always be exceptions, like the Eskimo who thinks nothing of taking a polar bear with an AR-15, or that tiger shot in the head with a .22 long-rifle. Due to it's large caliber and rough power, its only suitable for big game hunt. Like the .338-06, it’s a reloader’s dream: beaucoup bullet options, and .308 Win. “Gird your loins,” is the warning given any writer attempting to list the best cartridges for any type of hunting. The .308 Winchester is by far the most popular out of the bunch. Some you may find surprising. The American .30 calibers, from the .30-30 and .308 through the .30-06 and various .300 magnums with all the great bullet choices available, seem to be less affected by those problems than most other calibers. That pretty much sums it up: a great moose round with a very defined following. On that T&E, I learned a lot about stock design and distribution of rifle weight from muzzle to shoulder—choose wisely. .300 Winchester MagnumA strong following for this round in Alaska. The .338 Federal was created by the engineering and ballistics staff at Federal in collaboration with Sako rifles. Another caliber that is an excellent choice for moose hunting is the .338 Federal with 180-grain bullets. Wilson Combat Recon Tactical .338 Federal AR. The Alaska Moose Hunting Guidebook is now available for Apple devices and for Amazon Kindle. It’s that easy. If you should find it, please feel free to keep it. My sons Idaho moose hunt using a 338 Edge. .45-70The .45-70 is my moose and bear defense round when I’m at gold camp, or out picking berries. My 338 shoots 225gr Cutting Edge D62s at 2848fps avg. . I still haven't experimented with different powders to find the optimum performance (I've got some RL19 to try), but it does well enough with my Winchester 760 powder for now. Where I hunt elk, my "average shot distance" has been 195yds. Apr 22, 2016 #8 OP . I have confidence to shoot large animals with this round in my rifle. Examples are the .338 Marlin Express, .338 Federal, .338-06, .348 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Rem. I have one that is wonderfully light and it shoot Tikka good too. Mag. In Outdoor Canada’s 2010 survey of 75 moose guides from across the country, 35 per cent listed the .300 Win. John, I took a ~600 lb. the same username and password for all areas. I too have purchased a 338 federal in a ruger hawkeye for a short mountain rifle. It operates at higher pressure than the 358 winchester and is therefore better at 2oo + yards. The downfall of the .338 is recoil. I have taken 3 6 point bulls with this round all one shot kills and two of them at extended range. It's only killed one animal so far for me, but the black bear I shot was dead before it hit the ground. Although i've shot a large number of various factory rifles, i say unequivically that the ruger hawkeye is the finest factory rifle for the best price in the world. As I said in my cartridge intro for the 8th Edition of the Nosler Reload Guide, “If I have to choose a single rifle, my ‘shoot everything’ rifle, even if I’ll be running into one of my angry neighbors that others call a coastal brown bear, it’ll be the .338-06 A-Square.”. The cartridge is simply the .308 Winchester necked up to hold .338-inch bullets, and will fit perfectly in a short-action receiver. The .338 Federal was released in collaboration with the Sako rifle company of Finland. 338 Lapua mag, 375 H&H, 9.3x62 Mauser, 35 Whelan, 300Win Mag, 7mm Rem Mag are the calibers I own suitable moose and that’s the order I would chose them in. Please use This page was generated at 1 minute ago. L-R are 30-06 Sprnfld., 308 Win., 243 Win., 260 Rem., 7mm-08 Rem. for a free forum account |  Upgrade to a Supporting Forum Membership | Manage Your Account/Update Password. This fast handling quick on target is ideal for the ultimate brush, deep woods, Elk rifle. .338-06I’m writing a new rifle book dedicated to this subject, so you can definitely say I’m partial to a round that delivers speed near that of a .338 Win. Released in 2006 as a joint venture between Federal and Sako, the .338 Federal may be one of the wisest choices that the big-game hunter who likes a lightweight, sweet-shooting short-action rifle could make. I think the only thing I have loaded for it yet is a 200 gr SST with a BC of .455 it should be a great long range bullet. and 338 Federal. The .338 Federal is a reprieve from such nonsense. To qualify statements, the the .338 Federal was promoted as having more muzzle energy than the .30-06 and that the .338 generated 200fps more velocity than the parent .308 Winchester cartridge with bullets of equal weight. The men who wrote the Second Amendment didn't just finish a … I've taken grizzly and moose with the 338 Fed and Federal 210 NPs. The only thing a writer can do is respond with the most consistent rounds. with the 338M I only have ever recovered one bullet that did not completely pass threw and that was about a 50 yard shot on a big muley. The .338 is most unpleasant to shoot unless the rifle has a muzzle brake installed (.338 ammunition costs more too). It can easily kill large animals such as Bisons or Moose with one shot. Mag. Although i've shot a large number of various factory rifles, i say unequivically that the ruger hawkeye is the finest factory rifle for the best price in the world. Now personally, I prefer the .338-06 just because I have more space to work with powder loads. The 338 Federal (far right) is a member of the 308 Winchester family of short-action cartridges shown beside the long-action 30-06 for reference. Here are some performance numbers. Just a month before moose season a whole table in sporting goods section of a large Alaska discount retailer in Kenai was stacked with case after case of Core-Lokt .35 Whelen. below. Bullet selection for the .338 ranges from 200 to 300 grains. Add the ability to be used with a SA and that's enough to consider it a viable chambering IMO. Cartridge information gathered from www.federalpremium.com I would use any of those loads to shoot elk out to 350yds or so. as their top choice for the best moose cartridge, although several noted it was only their top choice if the hunter could handle the associated recoil. .35 WhelenThis round has a definite following in Alaska, and is one of friend and colleague Bryce Towsley’s favorites. Its only drawback is like that of my other favorite new offering moose-capable round, the .338 Federal: it’s hard to get in Anchorage, much less the bush—bring your ammo with you. While the .338 Win. I am not comfortable shooting game over about 800yds at this time. Most .338 Federal factory loads have more kinetic energy than the .358 Winchester at all ranges. .300 H&HMaster Alaska guide and longtime outdoor writer Phil Shoemaker, owner of Grizzly Skins of Alaska, has this to say, “There are no particularly bad cartridges but only improperly using them for unsuitable chores. Fly-in hunt. Are there any Alaskans using the 338 Federal for Bears or Moose ???? The 338-08, a 308 Winchester necked up to hold a .338 bullet was the cartridge the .338 Federal was modeled after and with some minor modifications it became what it is today. 30-06/180 LM, 375 H&H/300SBT, 338/185XLC. It operates at higher pressure than the 358 winchester and is therefore better at 2oo + yards. Joined Oct 21, 2012 Messages 479 Location Lyman, WY. It is incredibly easy to make for 308 family cases so there is never an ammo problem for handloaders. Takes a variety of bullets form 160 up. It is also an excellent killer, as i've killed a couple of moose, 2 blackies and 2 caribou with mine with quick 1 shot kills. .338 FederalJJ Reich at Federal Premium introduced me to this round a couple years ago, in the Savage Arms Bear Hunter, when I was just starting to work on my rifle book about the .338-06 and was keen to try another cartridge that is also a wildcat based on a military round. The 338 federal is a great round and would be best with a 225 grain partition or swift a-frame. 3. 308 Winchester vs 358 Winchester vs 338 Federal Ammo . I think the 338 federal is a fantastic cartridge, also highly underated. 300-grain Hornady DGX and Nosler Partitions are my favorites, making complete pass-throughs and easy-to-follow blood trails a reward, with surprisingly low meat damage. (elk and moose). 225 grain at 2850 fps and 4059 ft-lbs. Get magnum performance in a lightweight, short-action cartridge with the 338 Federal load from Federal Premium® Ammunition. On the flip side, the .338 Federal produces just 23.9 foot-pounds of recoil, compared to a shoulder-smashing 36.1 for the Win. Two-hundred grains out of this round will put a bear or moose on the ground efficiently. As an Alaskan, I’ve seen a number of moose taken with a variety of cartridges. Built on the .308 case and “necked-up” to hold a .338-diameter bullet, the load offers hunters a faster muzzle velocity than traditional favorites like the .308 Win., with a heavier bullet to boot. I’ve got one and find it a pleasure to shoot in Remington 700 Stainless Steel Synthetic that I switched the factory stock out for a recoil-dampening, H-S Precision Sporter, effectively taking it from shooting 1-MOA to half-MOA with the new stock, and a switch out of the trigger for a Timney Trigger at 2.75 pounds pull. More Savage Arms rifles chambered in .338 Federal Wilson Combat has also recently released the Recon Tactical .338 Federal AR. Mag. . I think the 338 federal is a fantastic cartridge, also highly underated. Considered by some ballistic experts to be the ideal cartridge for North American big game, the .338 Federal is also known for superb accuracy and stopping power in a controllable package. Let’s look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. My first moose was a 270 yard shot so I was glad my gun had that much range, I hunt moose with a Marlin 338 Express. E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. 88 in .338 Federal with a 22" barrel. The ballistics are even better than that of its grandfather, and in shorter action: it will fit the action of a .30-06. I have hunted elk and deer with the 338 WM for quite awhile here in Idaho with excelent results. Mag., has made this round a no-brainer choice for me. This beautiful rifle is an ideal choice for any big game hunting in North America including trophy wild hogs, elk, moose and bear. Yes, the .338 Lapua Magnum is A GOOD CHOICE for moose hunting, under average conditions, from a mid-range distance, with a medium grain expanding bullet, and with correct shot placement. Somewhere along the way I have lost the ability to act politically correct. The Hornady 200 gr Interlock SP has an excellent reputation on game in the 338/06, so at 100-200 fps less it should really penetrate well, and costs less than half what their GMX bullet does. Mag. The bigger the animal, the more heated that debate tends to be. For more on his articles and books, visit his official site here. The number of people who purchased all those boxes could be counted on one hand. I've booked my first trip to AK for next September. It does very well for what is was designed to do. Ask most Alaskans about their favorite and the “.338 Win Mag” is the answer you get, next to .30-06 and .300 Win. It shoots well with 160TTSX, 185TSX, 180NAB and the 200 Fusion. I use Federal 200 gr. The bullet passed through the ribs/lungs and left a fist sized hole exiting the animal. To post to our forums, please register. Magnum, 9.3x62mm, 9.3x74R, .405 Winchester, .444 Marlin, .450 Marlin and .45-70 Government. I think the real potential of the .338 Federal cartridge is going to be measured when it is matched against game animals the size of elk, black bear, and moose. That's plenty of punch for elk and moose. But the true beauty of the .338 Federal is you get near .338 Win. He’s presently the team leader on Discovery Channel’s Treasure Quest. This 360-page book is a great resource for any Alaska moose hunter, regardless of experience level. About the AuthorCork Graham has been covering guns and hunting since 1983, when he asked for an LOA from his NROTC squadron at UC Berkeley, and headed to SEA to cover wars as an 18-year-old photojournalist. by Mac (Washougal, Wa. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Cork Graham has been covering guns and hunting since 1983, when he asked for an LOA from his NROTC squadron at UC Berkeley, and headed to SEA to cover wars as an 18-year-old photojournalist. Only a few weeks later, it was gone. trophy bonded tip. I use a 200 gr plain jane bullet with tac powder ( a load i got from handloader magazine) it is a superb round and perfect for any game in alaska as long as good bullet placement is practiced. Takes a variety of bullets form 160 up. Performance is on a par with 30-06 but often in a lighter and handier rifle. Long range moose cartridges. .338 Winchester MagnumI don’t know about you, but for some reason, next to a .50 BMG, I seem to get my noggin rattled by just about every rifle I’ve shot this in, except for the Winchester Model 70 Extreme Weather SS I’ve learned to love because of a well-designed Bell & Carlson stock that makes it a pleasure to shoot. Let`s put the 338 Federal in proper context or perspective. If you handle it well, go for it! Now, I have a little 22"bbl 338 Federal. The author is right about the 6.5 Creed I own two in AR10s and neither gets the nod for moose. Nosler ballistic tip over imr 4350 powder in my pre 64 mod 70 it shoots sub moa and kills without much loss of meat. by Cork Graham - cow moose with my 338 Federal. I pulled the first shot and spined her, dropped where she stood. You also will not need to spend the money on premium bullets. 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